Super Hero films

Super Hero films

saw avengers finally - loved it - laughed so hard it hurt
upcoming spiderman has shitty version of lizard and fucked up gwen/parents story
batman seems to be more about terrorism than superheroes
buth prometheus looks set to be best film in 30 years

back to avengers
Several flaws in nick fury dialogue at least could be explained as bullshit - dead agent should have popped up and fury just lied he was dead - turns out phil will return - he is the glue of the ushared film continuity - one costant thing in the bold new shared superhero world

The cinematic universe version of marvel universe is pretty big but i guess universal pictures monsters are a kind of shared film world, as is godzilla. Superheroes are a bit more human than those - (marvel pioneered super continuity in comics with first team up ever in ww2 era sub mariner vs human torch) - every comic universe owes this one comic story.

I like how tony gets a boner for bruce offers him room in house and drives off with him at end for kebab. Hulk was so funny i hurt laughing.

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Sly Stallone complains of action heroes genre being killed by superheroes. 
sly whine here
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=60620

Good.

Action tv in australia died in 80s and still going in usa - i would have thought crime tv was was worse - martial arts in moves were big deal once - in 70s it was like magic to most ppl - now everyone has done some martial arts- now girs doing flying kicks is a shit cliche (any pretty girl with no muscle tone can do anything). I now understand what my friend meant by hating wire based martial arts films. Anyone with effects can doanything now - make dr who a superhuman acrobat and make spy kids beat anyone. No more steve reeve where as herculese he looked like he really could move a boulder or kill a lion.

Superheroes are the last viable genre of sf left
transhumanismm - the sf of the body [moon fits this too]
seriously id prefer to see superherous than sleazy tough jocks bashing stereotype fears of the momentr. with hoplessly unreal violence -at least you know superheroes are kida unrealistic but like the sybolism is more obvious

if comic based movies help keep comics or at least the characters alive good

Anyway Great Superhero films Below - 
I’ll do animted heroes some other time and sf horror the new sf vs cthulhu craze.
Blade and Robocop and judge dredd will be elsewhere too - pure spandex heroes only.

Avengers

The Shadow
beautiful

Rocketeer
beautiful

The Increeadible Hulk
1st one ok but second was really good and linked to previous 70s tv show and movie - starting to make more flexible continuities for heroes and audience can acept multiple versions and alternate realities

Superman and the mole men 
(im a hollow earth sucker)

Batman
(80s one though i hated end - joker leg ulds a 1-7t block of stone, villain falling + -1star
Whole series just turned into celebs as themselves posing in s&m outfits 
Current cycle of bat films are fun but too fixed in now and terrorism - i wanna see Gotham city not Boston. Gotham is the real star of older batman films. You watch 60s Batman like an austin powers movie or like a small child and read it totally straight. I used to cry when my dad and brother came to watch batman and would laugh (monkey too) didnt they know he was serious and dark? I think there is room for funny batman like brave and bold cartoon 50s 60s comics were increadibly weird and comix were inherintly a bit silly. the 80s and frank millar made batman black and dark.

Superman 2
Best villains 3 ppl as good as him - other than this and the set up in one the est are pretty silly. I fell asleep first watch of new one - was anoyed by continuity shit too - hope next verion works. Otherwise go back to 40s animations.

Supergirl
i really always liked supergirls comics and pets - her horse is awesome. Fun film.

Fantastic Four
Great chracterisation of four - dr doom had capable actor but screwing up his origin, not having a battlesuit like ironman, or his steampunk brutaliust inventions. No latveria no magic. Most of the films heroic feats were cleaning up their own mess and 4 ppl beating up one. not very fantastic. Second one should have done galactus and have him apear to aliens with their form before eating them - they pussied out and movie crawled backwards in thrill power - the film Kronos with the FF would have rocked. Actors and fx great in both shame franchise didnt get another shot. I cant wait for rights to return to marvel.

X-Men 
Cartoon better but the fourth film was beautiful and surprisingly good - like dr no and madmen kind of retro look i really enjoyed enough to not care about their non-cannon text. First 3 films were a bit matrixy. First was promising but got more shitty - i enjoyed them but kept being upset at why fix wot aint broke. Just make a new film dont call it xmen. Wolverine was so bad. One of worst films ever - make all those flopped black superheroes movies nobody in australia got to see look good. Im no deadpool fan but after raping him in wolverine they want to give him a spinoff!!!I cant wait for rights to return to marvel so beast, wolverine and storm can be in avengers VIII.

Unbreakable
Brilliant!

League of extarordinary Gentlemen
Oddly did better in australia. If i didnt know comic i would have liked more but i some how could accept it was just inspired by alan moore and not meant to make fames masturbate on the commic while watching. I didnt mind it and think it on par withy 70s steampunk movies.

Spiderman
The 70s version among my friends was as cool as starwars. we all had spiderman toys. Now they look like the shittry tv movie/pilots they were. TobyMcGuire version i enjoyed. Kistens dimples make me feel funny. Good but mre fighting please. Second one ok, 3rd one should be called too many monsters - screwd relations up for no reason. New one has screwd lizard one of my faves - the idea of a lab coat wearing scientist lizard man is brilliant he could be brilliant one moment and crocadillian stupidity next. I look fwd to more but home marvel studios will get back because the cinematic shared universe project is good for all superheroes. I cant wait for rights to return to marvel

Daredevil
When he beats Bullseye turn it off quick. Electra spinoff dreadful - making typhoid a nothing villain - what a waste. Kingpin was aweful.

Hellboy 
Brilliant - second one a bit too slick even though i can see wires in first.

Hancock
Not really a superhero film. Maybe first half counts.

KickAss
Not really a superhero movie but go read the comic because it is dark and not a teen summer fun film liker at all. Maybe thell make it like the comic in a remake in 10years.

Thor
Awesome cept why cant jane be a nurse? Nurses rock - or even a paramedic. Shame no donald blake - thors not used much secret id - being a medical doctor a man of peace was a good flipside.

Captain America
old version with italian skull? shit
Current one like rockateer is wonderful.

Iron Man
Probably my fave solo hero film now. Second one needed a bigger villain and took me a rewatch to like. Converted several friends to superhero films with iron man. Not really acting is it?.

Green Lantern
Villain parallax fail on many levels.

Punisher 
Lets make 3 terrible films with a character who was at his best as a spiderman villain. I would kill him if i could (and had powers). How can 3 films be so bad?

Watchmen
book is great - this film ok but gutless for not using the comic ending (even refering to comics ending) - music feels more forest gump than alan moore

Green Hornet
Enjoyable but posasibly funnier than it ought to be for some

Mystery Men
I loved it but some friends dont like funny heroes. Shame didnt include flaming carrot from comic - mr furious didnt come off as a nick fury parody just a dark bitter bit of a dick.

wikirpedia list needs update badly
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sadly i ran a superhero role playing game for 20 years. i could do my own wiki on it.